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HackMaster 4.0 - A Summoned Monster Cannot Summon - tmjva - 05-24-2018
I hear a summoned monster cannot in turn, summon another monster. So the argument goes, otherwise the world would get flooded with Nefarians and anyone summoning such a creature that could, but would prohibit it presuming the Nefarian is under the summoner's control and it would be folly to allow it.
I think its a rule somewhere, I just can't find it. Sometimes a Google search even shows it in the 3 line summaries for other rules systems, just not in the HackMaster 4.0 books.
For the sake of argument, let's use a devil:
e.g., The MM says such and such a devil can summon another type of such and such a devil with a 30% chance.
I've read the monster summoning spells I through VII, they all say the same thing and I did not find such a prohibition.
I read the GMG page 319, can't find it either. (Maybe it is my eyesight?)
Where is the rule?
I'm also thinking if a Nefarian was gated in, there is no such restriction, since there is no control by any Summoner.
RE: HackMaster 4.0 - A Summoned Monster Cannot Summon - Kersus - 05-24-2018
I would most definitely agree about Gate (which is what a lot of those evil creatures use) as it confers no control in and of itself. Even the control in Conjure Elemental is limited.
I also do not see any alteration to the words for summoning and such in the errata.
I don't see the issue with domino summoning myself. Creates interesting situations.